9/11, Conspiracy Theories, Unanswered Questions, And Scary Stuff
“At first, we widows didn’t want to be seen with conspiracy people. But they kept showing up. They cared more than those supposedly doing the investigating. If you ask me, they’re just Americans, looking for the truth, which is supposed to be our right.”[“The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll” (New York Magazine)]
September 11, 2001. I don’t think any of us can forget where we were or what we were doing that day when we heard the news.
I still see it in flashes. Flashes of the people who were with me that day, of the things that happened around me that day, of the things on the television that day.
Mind you, I’m the “conspiracy theorist” of the circle of friends, but really that just means, I’m the conspiracy collector. There were folks far more paranoid and with far more interesting theories than mine in that group. 
I like to think I collect and analyze and only believe the ones that actually have facts to back them up. Even then, they’re just theories.
I’ve heard and read a lot of theories about Septermber 11th in the last four and a half years. Yep, I’ve seen Michael Moore’s Farenheit 9/11 and somewhere on this blog I’ve expressed my mixed opinions on the subject. I’ve seen the website that claims it was a missle that landed in the Pentagon and not an airplane and I’m sorry I just don’t buy that one at all. I won’t even link to it because I refuse to give it any credit.
Jill @ Brilliant at Breakfast apparently has been holding on to some suspicions from September 11th and has found a compatriot in Mark Jacobson of New York Magazine’s article “The Grown Zero Grazzy Knoll.
…I weighed for a while the possibility of outright government complicity, as in my first reaction, but since then I’ve settled on Deliberate Negligence — the Bush Administration and intelligence agencies knew something was going to happen, and instead of preventing it, allowed it to play out, for a number of reasons.
What could those reasons be? Well, there was the fact that Bush’s approval ratings only seven months in were hovering at around 45% and some were speculating that this administration was over before it began. There was the Newsweek exposé about the thuggery in the Florida vote count that hit the newsstands the day before. And of course, we now know that these guys had a boner to invade Iraq even before taking office.
I don’t think they figured on the iconic twin towers collapsing in real time on national television; I think they took a calculated risk, that a few hundred lives were the unfortunate price to be paid for salvaging this presidency and the PNAC agenda. Yes, even this sounds horrifically evil, but it is it any more evil than starting a war based on a lie and sending hundreds of thousands of American young people to die in that war? I’m not trying to paint the Powers that Be as complete monsters; I just think that some cost/benefit ratios were analyzed and a decision was made to just let it play out and see what happens — and things went FUBAR far beyond what was calculated.
But it’s one thing for me to speculate, and for the REAL tinfoilers to come up with Krazy Konspiracy Theories, but when the questions about what really went down on 9/11 leaves the blogosphere and the dark corners of the Web and start hitting New York Magazine, a seismic shift in public perception about this government is taking place. [“Extraordinary” (Brilliant at Breakfast)]
…How, if no steel-frame building had ever collapsed from fire, did three such edifices fall that day, including 7 World Trade Center, which was not hit by any airplane?
And why, if hydrocarbon-fueled fire maxes out at 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit and steel melts at 2,700 degrees, did the towers weaken sufficiently to fall in such a short time—only 56 minutes in the case of the South Tower?
And why, if the impact destroyed the planes’ supposedly crash-proof flight-recorder black boxes, was the FBI able to find, in perfect condition, the passport of Satam al Suqami, one of the alleged American Airlines Flight 11 hijackers?
And how to explain the nonperformance of the FAA and NORAD?
How could they, an hour after the first World Trade Center crash, allow an obviously hostile airplane to smash into the Pentagon, headquarters of the entire military-industrial complex, for chrissakes? And why did the Defense Department choose to stage an extraordinary number of military exercises on 9/11—occupying matériel and spreading confusion about who was who on that day?
And why was it so important, as decreed by Mayor Giuliani, to clear away the debris, before all the bodies were recovered?
And what about the short-selling spree on American and United airlines stock in the days before the attacks? Betting on the stocks to go down—was this real sicko Wall Street insider trading?
There were so many questions. But when it came to the big “why” of 9/11, there was only the classic conspiratorial query: “Who benefits?”
[…]
In his paper “What Is Your ‘HOP’ Level?” Nick Levis, who co-coordinates the N.Y. 9/11 Truth meetings with Father Morales and Les Jamieson, categorizes the basic narrative theories about September 11. The options essentially boil down to four.
(A) The Official Story (a.k.a. “The Official Conspiracy Theory”). The received Bushian line: Osama, nineteen freedom-haters with box cutters, etc. As White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said, there was “no warning.”
(B) The Incompetence Theory (also the Stupidity, Arrogance, “Reno Wall” Theory). Accepts the Official Story, adds failure by the White House, FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. to heed ample warnings. This line was advanced, with much ass-covering compensation, in The 9/11 Commission Report.
(C) LIHOP (or “Let It Happen on Purpose”). Many variations, but primarily that elements of the U.S. government and the private sector were aware of the hijackers’ plans and, recognizing that 9/11 suited their policy goals, did nothing to stop it.
(D) MIHOP (“Made It Happen on Purpose”). The U.S. government or private forces planned and executed the attacks.
[…]
Late in the summer of 2004, as the Republicans in Madison Square Garden extolled George Bush’s staunch protection of the homeland, a Zogby poll asked New Yorkers if they believed that “some of our leaders knew in advance attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and consciously failed to act.”
Of city residents, 49.3 percent said yes.
A year and a half later, doubt had increased, at least according to my own informal canvassing. Per Nick Levis’s “HOP” paper, I offered four choices: (A) the Official Story; (B) the Official Story plus incompetence; (C) LIHOP; (D) MIHOP.
Of the 56 respondents, 28 said C, 23 picked B, with 4 (including two Muslim cabdrivers) opting for MIHOP.
Almost every white person with a straight job said B. Many disliked Bush but said they couldn’t bring themselves to believe the U.S. government would take part in the death of 3,000 of its countrymen.
Typical was the opinion offered by an investment banker at a downtown bar. “I can see them wishing it would happen, secretly happy it did. But on purpose? Look at the way they’ve managed Iraq. They’re boobs. They couldn’t have pulled off 9/11 without getting caught. Not possible.”
Uptown, responses were different. “Yeah, they knew,” said a retired transit worker on 116th Street, one of the 17 of 22 black people questioned who picked C. He said he’d heard Marvin Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a director of Securacom, a firm that on 9/11 was in charge of security not only at the World Trade Center but also for United and American airlines as well as at Dulles airport, where Flight 77 took off.
“That true?” he asked.
Yeah, I said. That’s what I heard.
“There anywhere he ain’t got no brother?”
“Bush’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, worked there, too.”
“Wirt? The third? You’re shitting me.”
This was pretty much the opinion. If Katrina proved the government was willing to let people die, right there on TV, why should 9/11 have been any different? Only one person picked A, the official story. This was a fireman, who was smoking a cigarette outside a downtown engine company. Truth be told, I wasn’t keen on quizzing firemen about 9/11 Truth, but I knew the guy’s brother from high school.[“The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll” (New York Magazine)]
(The end of the article actual gives a variety of different theories. My favorite is the one that “shrinks did it”.)
O.K. Let’s face it. We’re talking theory here. Do I think any of what was suggested is possible? Yes. Do I think our government is capable of it? Yes. Does that make me uncomfortable? Yes. Scares the shit out of me. Gives me nightmares. I don’t like to think about it. Remember, my shrink thinks I’m not overly paranoia and that I come by it naturally, so I’m not crazy. 
However, to sleep at night, I do kind of tell myself that this is more of an incompentance thing or it was a “let it happen” thing and took advantage of the opportunity. Personally I think they kind of didn’t realize it was going to be as devestating as it turned out to be and they’ve been trying to cover their asses ever since. I think they thought we’d take a hit and then they’d make a big show of smacking back the enemy and they’d look good and raise their approval rating, which as Jill pointed out in her post was not looking very good just 7 months in on George’s presidency and the Florida voting thing was starting to make noises. The timing of 9-11 was actually perfect for George. (And before you flame me, remember that at the time of 9-11, I was a Bush supporter and thought he did a heckova job with the whole thing.)
So, I guess what I want to say is that there are definitely questions that are worth asking. There are questions that really haven’t been asked and should be. There are answers that haven’t been answered fully and there’s truth and facts that haven’t been offered and should be. It’s hard with this administration to know what to trust and with the misinformation that routinely seems to come out of their press mouths and their representatives, one has to wonder how far back the misinformation and misdirection goes.
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on March 24, 2006 at 2:40 pm
Big Dog said:
In order for something of this magnatude to take place it would involve a lot of people. Someone would talk, or balk at the idea to begin with. I don’t think anyone knew when it was going to happen but I think they knew someone was terying to attack us. They knew it for all the years Clinton was in office because the intelligence that points to it came from his administration.
Just because we know something will happen does not mean we can stop it if we do not know when and how. I don’t for a minute believe the government was complicit in this. It was a well planned and well coordinated attack by smart, determined people. I give them their props. As far as a military strike, this one was brilliant. I admire the thinking and planning that went into it, but it was just that, well planned, not assisted.
As for the idea that they imploded the twin towers, how could people possibly get in there and hide the amount of explosives it would take to bring down the buildings? It would involve experts and even if they found people to do it, how would they keep them quiet? Definite proof would bemore devestating than low approval ratings.
For a guy that the left paints as an idiot, they sure give Bush a lot of credit as a mastermind.
This in no way stops me from believing that Elvis is alive in Michigan…….
on March 24, 2006 at 4:44 pm
n. mallory said:
Naw, when I was at Graceland back in ‘92, I talked to a guard in the museum (not the house), and we were talking about how if he had faked his death the statute of limitations on the insurance fraud would be up that year or the next, I forget.
Anyway, I think he was too obsessed with Priscilla to have faked his death this long.
But, gawd, that house was tacky. However, you probably will appreciate that my friends and I asked so many annoying questions that when we left, the staff of Graceland applauded.
Ah, the good ole days.
on March 26, 2006 at 4:05 pm
Tamara said:
Lawdy, I hope he’s not in Michigan.
I did see one very hideous Elvis impersonator last week in Vegas. I mean, this guy looked like someone’s grandfather, and the clothing was el cheapo — no way E would have been seen in anything that tacky.
We also saw a ton of “regular” people, either working at non-Elvis-related jobs or shopping or whatever, who certainly appeared to be off-duty Elvis impersonators by the way they wore their hair.
on March 26, 2006 at 5:00 pm
n. mallory said:
Oooo, I hope you enjoyed yourself and the wedding!
on September 12, 2006 at 4:03 pm
zeeshan said:
Americans are a nation which is occupied by ?????? all can guess and their guess is 100% truth, but still is a guess, what a joke, the only super power is being operated by the the “third Party” and I am sure one of the big element of “Third Party is JEWS”
Lets Look at the following Dear Stupids (Americans)
1. Where is the gold which worth 120 billion $ which was in the basement of the WTC?
2. Why 100 Millions Transaction was made from WTC on 9/11?
3. Who is Osama, and Where is he, if Saddam Can be captured and his sons can be murdered why osama is still between the two worlds.
4. Who is Al-Qaeda? Who Formed This? Where The Osma is, Why Osama was used in war against USSR by US in Afganistan?
5. Did you see the First Movie of Osama Accepting the 9/11 Plan as Al-Qaeda’s Work?, he is not osama stupids
6. What is the Oil business involvement between Bush Senior and Osama
7. in 1999 Mr. Powel was saying that Kidnappers treated him very well, it was not he, it was a new voice technology which can be used to make any body’s voice.
8. Osama uses left hand, in first movie he was writing with right hand
9. In Islam, muslim men are not allowed to wear gold rings, osama (so called) is wearing that
10. The tape issued was also the voice conversatio technology, on the height of 8000 feet only 1 out of 100 cellular phone can make a phone call, on the height of 32000 feet 0 out of 100 call is possible, who called to his mom from the flite?
Was this possible for US Goverment to Attack Afghanistan, if this event was not occured?
can US Govt attack Iraq without giving their nation an example of threat from iraq like 9/11?
So the conclusion is “American People are the most Vulnerable and Stupid Creature on earth, who has everything, but nothing”
There is no OSAMA Exists, NO ALQAEDA Exists, The Both are GHOSTS, and these Ghosts are a gift from US Govt to their Nation. And These Ghost will be used for Future Demolish Plans of the Human Beings in this World, This world was created to live peacefully and to love and see the beauties of the nature, but what is going on here.
I had a Message Plate Fixed out side my House on Which It was Written ” Beware of Dogs” But This World is Wearing a Message Plate ” Beware of Jews”
on September 12, 2006 at 4:22 pm
n. mallory said:
Zeeshan - You don’t make any valid argument to support your beginning or ending statement. In fact, you don’t support anything you are saying by explaining what you’re talking about.
on September 13, 2006 at 4:15 pm
zeeshan said:
Dear Mallory,
Thanks for your concerns, I am not here to decide anything rather raising new questions which I myself is eager to know about. There is a big “Y” exists, atleast no body can deny this. I support humanity, Osama and Bush is not my concern, my concern is my world, and I want to see this a place of peace, and what happened on 9/11 was not the incident which was a direct attack on the humanity but what happened after this was and is the worst and worst then 9/11, I can understand what happened on 9/11 as the things are becoming more clearer, if you wish I can provide u a documentary which can explain the reason of my opinions written in my previous message.
on September 14, 2006 at 8:46 am
n. mallory said:
My problem is that in your enthusiasm for your theories, you are not explaining your theories clearly. All I’m asking is for you to explain your theories in a more plain-English manner, because I am curious as to your points and why you think the way you do.
on February 21, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Iris Zoos said:
There are a lot of things that need to be analyzed with 9/11. This weekend there will be a a big 9/11 Truth Movement event.
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Sander Hicks, New York City’s leading author of alternative views of the 9/11 attacks, will be speaking and appearing numerous times at this weekend’s 9/11 Accountability Conference in Chandler, AZ. Hicks is founder of two media companies, author of The Big Wedding, a ground-breaking book on 9/11, and the “punk of publishing” in award-winning 2003 documentary “Horns and Halos.”
Hicks recently received praise from the national 9/11 Truth movement for two recent actions. Earlier this month, he built a bridge between mainstream media and the 9/11 Truth movement when major news website Alternet published his explosive report “9/11: The Case Isn’t Closed.” The article became “#1 most read” for two weeks.
Hicks simultaneously published an open letter to the Brooklyn DA, Charles Hynes, urging an investigation into Mohamed Atta’s network in Hicks’s hometown of Brooklyn. Hicks’s letter cites new evidence of American aid to Atta, including an exclusive on Atta’s CIA-connected American drinking buddy, Wolfgang Bohringer.
Publisher Sander Hicks will also have in tow his company’s newest controversial publication, The Zenith Secret: A CIA Insider Exposes the Secret War Against Cuba and the Plot that Killed the Kennedy Brothers. This CIA insider’s memoir is sure to shock and disturb Arizona’s many fans of the late Senator Barry Goldwater. According to author Captain Brad Ayers, in November, 1963, Senator Goldwater coordinated a huge transfer of cash that was delivered to the CIA’s top killer, David Morales, and his mobster affiliate, Johnny Rosselli. Both are long suspected of helping to kill JFK. Read an excerpt about the Goldwater connection at our exclusive Arizona media website: http://voxpopnet.net/zenithAZinsideINFO.html
Media Availability: Sander Hicks, author, activist, and publisher of Vox Pop, will be available at select times in Arizona this weekend to talk about 9/11. His speaking times are on the schedule at http://911accountability.org. He will also participate in the 9/11 Accountability press conference from 4-5 pm, Friday, Feb. 23rd. Cell phone contact: (347) 446 4461.
More Info on Sander Hicks: Sander Hicks is founder of Vox Pop, a media company, bookstore, and coffeehouse in Brooklyn. The 2002 film “Horns and Halos” documents Hicks’s controversial republishing of the embattled biography Fortunate Son, while CEO/founder of Soft Skull Press, Inc., from 1999-2001. Hicks’s own book, The Big Wedding (Vox Pop, 2005), reveals several key insights into the 9/11 attacks and the government whistle-blowers who tried and failed to stop 9/11. As a reporter, he has done ground-breaking research on the 9/11 attack for New York Megaphone, New York Press, Long Island Press, and INN World Report television. http://www.sanderhicks.com/
More Info on Vox Pop:
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More Info on 9/11 Accountability Conference:
The 9/11 Accountability: Strategies and Solutions Conference takes place this weekend, at the Crowne Plaza San Marcos, in Chandler, Arizona, from February 23-25, 2007. Over 350 concerned citizens of Arizona have pre-registered, and many more are expected. More information: http://www.911accountability.org/ 602-714-1174.
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on February 23, 2007 at 12:04 am
Ed Schmidt said:
I was a Bush supporter back in 2001. As time passed, it became clear the administration was obstructing any investigation into 9/11. Some old names started being appointed to key positions, and the establishing of “Free Speech” zones caused me to start researching. I was is denial for a long time. I just couldn’t get passed the “not our own citizens” thing. Then Bush admitted changing the language of the EPA report, dropping warnings and precautionary measures concerning exposure to the dust. On that day I could no longer deny they were capable of causing the deaths of their own citizens. It was one of the days of my life.