Comments on: Pentagon “Accidentally” Spying on Protestors…Again? http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain & Other Discombobulated Thoughts Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:01:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: Big Dog http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1798 Big Dog Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:05:34 +0000 http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1798 I do not have a problem with them sending soldiers into groups exercising their right to free speech as you mentioned about the Vietnam war. Those protest groups were responsible for blowing up things in America. Now one of them is an employee of the ACLU. I think it could be a mistake. The DOD looks at millions of things and this could be a mistake. But tell me, why are you so ready to believe it is not a mistake but you wrote nothing colling Hillary to task for "not knowing" Bill was working on behalf of Dubai. Come now do you think she really did not know? Or is this a bias. You seem to have theis military/conspiracy thing going on so perhaps you will believe anything they say about the military. I don't care id they watch protest groups who are outside of places like military bases and Walter Reed Army Hospital. They should keep an eye on they to make sure they are not spying or causing trouble to our troops and their families. We have been through this before and what the government (or as you say the President) is doing is perfectly legal. The thing that worries me and should you though you did not touch on it is this from the story: One briefing document stamped “secret” concludes:“ If it was stamped secret then it is classified and who ever released it committed a crime. That is the person who concerns me. It is also a crime for a news outlet to knowingly release classified information. They admitted that they broke the law. Now that is more of a problem than some mistake made by the DOD. I do not have a problem with them sending soldiers into groups exercising their right to free speech as you mentioned about the Vietnam war. Those protest groups were responsible for blowing up things in America. Now one of them is an employee of the ACLU.

I think it could be a mistake. The DOD looks at millions of things and this could be a mistake. But tell me, why are you so ready to believe it is not a mistake but you wrote nothing colling Hillary to task for “not knowing” Bill was working on behalf of Dubai. Come now do you think she really did not know?

Or is this a bias. You seem to have theis military/conspiracy thing going on so perhaps you will believe anything they say about the military.

I don’t care id they watch protest groups who are outside of places like military bases and Walter Reed Army Hospital. They should keep an eye on they to make sure they are not spying or causing trouble to our troops and their families. We have been through this before and what the government (or as you say the President) is doing is perfectly legal.

The thing that worries me and should you though you did not touch on it is this from the story:

One briefing document stamped “secret” concludes:“

If it was stamped secret then it is classified and who ever released it committed a crime. That is the person who concerns me. It is also a crime for a news outlet to knowingly release classified information. They admitted that they broke the law. Now that is more of a problem than some mistake made by the DOD.

]]> By: n. mallory http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1799 n. mallory Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:03:15 +0000 http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1799 I don't talk about Hillary Clinton because I don't like Hillary Clinton, but not to the point where she pisses me off, just to the point where I'd rather ignore her at the moment. ;) Though admittedly, there seems to be a lot of communication issues in her marriage, which is none of my business. And, yes, I do have a military/conspiracy thing, which might be odd coming from the child of an army brat and an army Captain turned DOE manager. It just kind of comes naturally. I just believe there has to be some sort of balance between civil liberties and watchlists. I'm just wonder why reports of vegan groups, senior citizen anti-war protest groups, Quaker anti-war groups, etc. are ending up on these lists and aren't being removed. I will admit that I agree with you on one thing. The fact that they had access to a "secret" document bothered me a good deal. Having had secret clearance in the past, I take that very seriously. I don’t talk about Hillary Clinton because I don’t like Hillary Clinton, but not to the point where she pisses me off, just to the point where I’d rather ignore her at the moment. ;) Though admittedly, there seems to be a lot of communication issues in her marriage, which is none of my business.

And, yes, I do have a military/conspiracy thing, which might be odd coming from the child of an army brat and an army Captain turned DOE manager. It just kind of comes naturally. I just believe there has to be some sort of balance between civil liberties and watchlists.

I’m just wonder why reports of vegan groups, senior citizen anti-war protest groups, Quaker anti-war groups, etc. are ending up on these lists and aren’t being removed.

I will admit that I agree with you on one thing. The fact that they had access to a “secret” document bothered me a good deal. Having had secret clearance in the past, I take that very seriously.

]]> By: n. mallory http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1800 n. mallory Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:10:10 +0000 http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1800 You know, speaking of a horrible misuse of secret security clearance, I once convinced someone that the X-Files were real. People are so gullible. I never have talked about the actual stuff I read/saw while working on that job though. Most people would have found it horribly boring anyway. You know, speaking of a horrible misuse of secret security clearance, I once convinced someone that the X-Files were real. People are so gullible.

I never have talked about the actual stuff I read/saw while working on that job though. Most people would have found it horribly boring anyway.

]]> By: Big Dog http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1802 Big Dog Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:39:17 +0000 http://nmallory.exit-23.net/20060310/pentagon-accidentally-spying-on-protestorsagain#comment-1802 My point though, is if Hillary can claim she did not know and the MSM buys that without question, why can it not be real that the DOD which has hundreds more people and is a puzzle palace can not make a mistake. The things is, if they were trying to hide something why not just take them off what ever list they were on and then deny they were ever on there? I mean it was the DOD who disclosed the latest information and they had to know people would think they were lying so if that is the case why not just take them off and lie about it (if they are lying to begin with). I think people get on lists for a numbe rof things like making bomb references or saying something suspicious. It takes forever to get someone off a list, it shouldn't, but it does. You mean the X-files are <em>not</em> real? My point though, is if Hillary can claim she did not know and the MSM buys that without question, why can it not be real that the DOD which has hundreds more people and is a puzzle palace can not make a mistake.

The things is, if they were trying to hide something why not just take them off what ever list they were on and then deny they were ever on there? I mean it was the DOD who disclosed the latest information and they had to know people would think they were lying so if that is the case why not just take them off and lie about it (if they are lying to begin with).

I think people get on lists for a numbe rof things like making bomb references or saying something suspicious. It takes forever to get someone off a list, it shouldn’t, but it does.

You mean the X-files are not real?

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