Quotes of the Day: Deja Vu
The weird thing is that we’ve heard most of this same stuff from the Democrats the last 3 years or so and the Republicans have suddenly changed their tunes…I guess it’s kind of like how rules only apply to everyone else — you know, like how people think they can enter through the exit and block outgoing traffic but get pissed if anyone does that to them.
Quotes from when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia:
“You can support the troops but not the president.”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years.”
–Joe Scarborough (R-FL)“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”
–Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99“[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
–Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)“American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”
–Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”
–Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
–Governor George W. Bush (R-TX). [“ahh, the good ole days” (The Daily Kos)]
Talk about flip-flopping!
And you know, I don’t recall any U.S. Soldiers being killed in that initiative. Hmmmm….
tags: Quote of the Day, Bill Clinton, Tom DeLay, Rick Santorum, Trent Lott, George W. Bush, politics, Bosnia
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on August 20, 2005 at 7:58 pm
Yellow Swordfish » The Warped Hypocrisy Of American Republican Politicians said:
[…] When then president of the USA Bill Clinton sent troops into Bosnia - to perform a worthy and notable task that helped stabilise the region (if it ever can be truly stabilised), we already know that the right wing bigots of the US Senate and Congress fought him tooth and nail. I have read many statements that these political scumbags made at the time but I just read a whole bunch of them together over at The Naked Truth which were gleaned from The Daily Kos. […]
on August 20, 2005 at 8:29 pm
Big Dog said:
I thought Clinton never caused war and was a great peaceful man and a uniter. Oh, wait. He got involved in someone else’s civil war and he used our military to deflect from his troubles at home. Keep in mind that Bosnia never attacked us. Radicals, in concert with terrorists in and out of Iraq did just that in 2001 and Iraq violated UN resolutions for 14 years. I don’t think Bosnia was the same no matter how notable the dipstick at Kos thinks it was. I guess saving Bosnians is notable but doing the same in Iraq is not.
Now I want you to do your homework and print a list of all the donks, including President Clinton, who said that Hussein had WMD, that he had to go, and that regime change was in order in Iraq. The assignment has one condition. You have to print a list of donks who said that while Clinton was in office.
I mean if you want to be fair about the whole thing,(you were the one who said the rules apply to everyone else). So get busy and see if that is true or if your pecious donks have done the very same thing. I imagine the moonbats over at Kos would never do that, given their hate for Bush, but you seem more fair minded.
Here are a few to start you off.
There were many, many more. So like where’s Waldo, let the hunt begin.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:47 pm
n. mallory said:
Well, I do recall Bush and Powell both saying in early 2001 that Iraq did not have WMD…in fact, I believe Bush said Saddam couldn’t possibly have WMD because American had done such a great job keeping him from getting them.
And yes, I’ve heard of all the folks who thought Saddam had WMD. That wasn’t my point. My point is that the Republicans said the same thing when a Democrat was in office as the Dems are saying now.
And I do not believe that the terrorists were in and out of Iraq. Saddam hates OBL. Those borders were closed to the terrorists until the U.S. invaded and opened the borders.
However, I do think that most of the terrorists involved in 9-11 came from one of our allies. Hmmmmm…
It’s all perception.
It’s not Clinton didn’t do good things in his 8 years. Heck, his election for his second term wasn’t anywhere close. Obviously he must have been doing something right…and the witch hunt that generated scandal after scandal for him? Wasn’t that a bit disrespectful to the Presidency considering the fact that who he had sex with really wasn’t anyone’s business but his and hers?
on August 21, 2005 at 1:07 am
Big Dog said:
So if a CEO of a large company has sex with a subordinate the nags from NOW should not call for his resignation. And to refresh your memory, he got in trouble for lying under oath. Not for having sex with her. Why is it disrespectful to investigate the illegal activities of anyone, especially the President? He had sex in his workplace. a bunch of Army sergenats at Aberdeen went to jail for having sex with privates who they were in charge of. He is the Commander in Chief. Should not the standard be as high?
Very few service men died in Bosnia beacause we did not have a ground war. Clinton made them bomb from 15000 feet so they could not get shot down. This made accuracy nearly impossible (hard to ID targets from 3 miles up)
You can deny the connection between OBL and Hussein all you want but you are only fooling yourself. If what you say is true then why did Hussein harbor terrorists in his country and why were there terrorist training camps there. We found them and I wrote a piece showing how they were coordinating with outside agencies (read OBL and Taliban) to attack the US.
It would be a stretch to call any middle eastern country our ally. OBL was from Saudi so is it so hard to imagine he had radical friends from there?
I do not remember them saying he did not have them. Everyone knows he had them at one point and I know he could not have disposed of them properly. If you ever want to see pictures of what the WMD he did not have did just let me know and I can send them to you.
BTW, I am a SME on the occupational health related to chemical warfare agents. I have been involved in this area for some time and have lectured on the subject. Not that any of that matters but I wanted you to know I have a bit of knowledge on the subject.
on August 21, 2005 at 1:49 pm
n. mallory said:
Secretary of State Colin Powell, Cairo, February 24, 2001
Though I’ve seen the footage of Bush talking about how Saddam couldn’t have WMD, I don’t have the patience to keep searching for it in print right at the moment (migraine).
However, it appears that the Bush administration wasn’t always sure or committed or in agreement on this subject. If I wasn’t such an honest person, I wouldn’t provide this link to quotes where as early as December 1999, Bush was talking about WMD:
I find it interesting though that Powell is even quoted on that page saying there were no WMD in Iraq.
Mind you, I still don’t think Saddam had WMD at the time of the invasion. I still believe a crazy dictator would have flung them at the invading army rather than have his country taken from him. What would hiding them and letting his country be taken accomplish for him?
I’ve seen interviews with Weapons Inspectors that believe the inspections were working to keep Saddam in check.
Oh, and one more “Presidential” quote:
OK…if we assume that unlike Clinton, the Bush’s are faithful to their wives, how gross is this? His father seems so much more refined than this sort of answer implies and how pre-presidential was that answer? Ick.
Now, in regards to Clinton: yes, he got in trouble for lying about having consentual sex with a woman who wasn’t his wife. As a Christian, I think that’s terrible. Fortunately, I’m not God so I don’t get to judge him. However, I do believe that it was a question that never should have been asked him in the first place. It was his personal, private life. I don’t care about whether it was in the White House or not. As people have pointed out on other websites, a President is never on vacation or “off the job” so do we have a right to expect our president to be Jesus-perfect 24/7/365 while he is president? Obviously, it really wasn’t affecting his job until he kept being pulled away to deal with scandals created by the Republicans. And all of the good work he did (balancing the budget and welfare reform) was tainted.
I just don’t see why it was anyone’s business. Monica didn’t seem to be complaining. In fact, she had a history of having affairs with older, married men. And, really, how could anyone reasonably expect any man to have answered differently?
You know, JFK had a gazillion affairs but when his name is brought up in political discussions, it rarely leads to discussions about his cheating on Jackie.